Notes from January 2018 Public Meeting

Thank you to everyone who came to the public meeting on the 30th January. For those who couldn’t make it here are the notes from the meeting:

David Munro – Surrey Police & Crime Commissioner

David was invited at short notice (morning of the meeting day) but made an extra effort to attend and speak for a few minutes a the beginning of he meeting.  He made the point that he is a cyclist, and believes cycling is an important factor in local transport, and that Surrey cyclists should get the priority that they are due.  He made the point that in 2015 there were 10 murders in Surrey, but 31 people were killed on the roads.  For that reason Surrey’s “Drive Smart” campaign is to be relaunched to improve road safety, and cycling is one of the main strands of the initiative.

Sgt Phil Dix – Roads Policing Unit (RPU), Surrey Police

Sgt Dix is known in Surrey, in the UK, and internationally for his contribution to road safety through social media, and he spoke in detail about how this works. The meeting was shown a clip of the promotional campaign by Cycling UK which outlined the campaign #TooCloseForComfort: the close pass mat


Surrey RPU decided to experiment with the use of Twitter to communicate with the public. They found that this is an effective tool to communicate having the advantage of allowing two way interaction and discussion. Currently the @SurreyRoadCops account creates about 3 million impressions per month and has won awards for it’s efficacy.
Other forms of communication continue to be used including mainstream media (radio, local news etc).

Close Pass Mats

Following the lead of West Midlands Police, The RPU team started a Close Pass Operation. The team is small, so they use the Cycling UK Close Pass Mats on an ad-hoc basis.

Video footage

Many cars have dash-cams these days, and cyclists sometimes wear cameras too. When these record incidents, the footage can be submitted online to the Surrey Police Traffic Process Unit for use as evidence. It should be noted that

  • Evidence must be submitted promptly as there are strict time limits for notice of prosecution
  • Original files must be retained
  • Submissions should if possible include at least two minutes of footage before and after the incident: this is because drivers will often claim you were riding badly before and after
  • The video must not be shared publicly to avoid prejudicing a potential jury
  • Supporting evidence statements from independent witnesses are helpful: although statements from your fellow cyclists are helpful, ideally these should be persons not connected to you
  • You must be willing to attend court if there is a prosecution

Surrey Police hope eventually to emulate Operation Snap in Wales which allows footage to be uploaded directly to the Traffic Process Unit (instead of sharing a link to a private YouTube clip).

Reported incidents result in either prosecution in court, a fixed penalty, a warning, or where there is insufficient evidence, no action. All reports are investigated.


Where Surrey RPU run a close-pass operation, any drivers stopped will have records checked for previous issues, their vehicle checked for problems, and they will be told the consequences of their actions. Often, if due contrition is shown, they are given the option of a fixed penalty, or roadside education which is provided immediately.  Experience so far is that all drivers given education have been very receptive. It is expected that they will explain what happened to friends, which will spread the word about the close pass operation.

Surrey Police have a Casualty Reduction Team. They are currently working with Sussex Police and cooperating with partner agencies across Surrey and Sussex.

Pavements, red light running and parking

Bikes are not allowed on pavements and can be given a £30 fixed penalty (rare). Complaints are received by the police about cyclists on pavements, and the police need to remain unbiased. They will target people who present the most risk whether this is reckless cycling on a pavement or cars close passing cyclists. The same principles apply to cyclists and cars running through red lights.

Parking was decriminalised in the 1990s. Since then the police will only get involved where there is a danger to the public, for example along Stoke Park last year a long line of cars parked in a non-mandatory cycle lane were ticketed. (Question: doesn’t that rather contradict the idea that it is non-mandatory?)


His unit will only report the most dangerous pot holes, which they may also mark with a cone.  Sam Jones from Cycling UK mentioned at this point that anyone can report a pot hole using the online web page or App

What you can do

    • Join G-BUG
    • Tell David Munro, the Surrey Police & Crime Commissioner what you think about policing and improving safety for cyclists
  • Tell your local councillors and MP that you want to see cycle safety improved in Guildford.


  1. Alfie Simmons


    Regarding the notes on “Pavements, red light running and parking” (paragraph 2), the question asked was whether Surrey Police could issued fixed penalty notices for ‘Wilful Obstruction [of highways and streets], Highways Act 1980’ to vehicles that were parked and obstructing non-mandatory cycles lanes as a means to deter their obstruction. An example of this particular penalty being used in similar circumstances was given, when fixed penalties were issued to vehicles that had obstructed the footway alongside Stoke Park (

    The response from Sgt Dix was that Surrey Police could issue such a penalty if the vehicle was obstructing the cycle path. Furthermore, they would issue the penalty if they deemed the obstruction to be dangerous, even if the cycle path in question was non-mandatory. Quite what constitutes an obstruction that would be deemed dangerous enough to warrant a penalty sadly wasn’t discussed; at any one time, at least five cars can be found on the notoriously dangerous Aldershot Road [A323, Guildford end] that are completely blocking the cycle path and I’ve never seen any of them ticketed.

    • Stephen Cromwell


      Hi Alfie, I think this reinforces the need for kerb separated cycleways rather than painted lanes. There is no reason why the non-mandatory lanes on the A323 couldn’t be segregated as the road is wide enough.

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